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Old Sep 13, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46   #1
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Default My ultimate monk skill.........to overpowered?

[ELITE]Blessing of Dwayna-For 3....7 seconds, all party members(including allies) gain +2....+6 health regeneration, and 50% chance to block attacks.(Healing Prayers)
cost-10 energy
activation time-2 seconds
recharge time-30 seconds

Any thoughts on this skill? Is it too over-powered, really unique, a good idea, or just plain dumb......or anything else u have to say

EDIT1: Changed duration, and Recharge time, hoping to make it more popular of a skill suggestion / changes made-(duration:5-10sec|7-15 sec __ recharge:60 sec-30 sec)
EDIT2: Changed duration(again), and recharge time(again) /changes made-(duration:7-15 sec|7-10 sec __ recharge:30 sec-45 sec)
EDIT3: Changed duration(yes, again),energy cost, health regen, and recharge time(yes, again) /changes made-(duration:7-10 seconds|3-7 sec___ health regen:+7- +10|+3- +7___energy cost:15e-10e___recharge:45 seconds-30seconds)

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Old Sep 13, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52   #2
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...I use a Blessed Light monk

And if this skill existed I would totally!!!!

Stay the same.

My honest to someone opinion is its just plain dumb, don't like the recharge, casting time, or energy cost.

Lol, sorry to sound like I'm flaming, but you just don't want all those things put together. (Recharge, cast time, etc.)

Nice try. ^_^
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54   #3
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Too expensive for the duration, if someone decided to use this as their elite you wouldn't see them popping it off very much.
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04   #4
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Yeah, too overpowered, even for the energy and recharge. The effects by themselves are too similar to other skills for any salvaging.

It's no fun having godly effects in one skill.
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 03:06 AM // 03:06   #5
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make it last 10 seconds, or less
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19   #6
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It already does...
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25   #7
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make sure to check when i edit it....................just saying
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42   #8
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I like it. Could see some very specific uses for it - like Last Day Dawns.

Need to clarify what it is - I assume an Enchantment Spell?
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47   #9
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Sounds like a Ritualist skill, not a Monk one. This should be an Elite spirit, not an enchantment. Monks already get healing on top of any of their healing or protection spells, You use a boon Protection monk and your easily poping 100+ cure and any variety of protection spell on an allie in one spell. Monks should focus more on healing one allie, and Ritualist should be given skills which protect multiple allies with multiple effects.

This could also be an Elite Well for Necromancer, just make it cost more and be able to recast more as well. But what I would really like to see is an Elementist Ward that grants health regen and defense, or A Healing over Time spell that heals his allies at a location for X amount every second for 10 seconds, that would just kick ass.

If you make this, you can count on Monks or Mesmers Archane Echoing this for double use, between 3 players, it can be permanant, and it would win games.
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36   #10
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Sounds like a Ritualist skill, not a Monk one. This should be an Elite spirit, not an enchantment. Monks already get healing on top of any of their healing or protection spells, You use a boon Protection monk and your easily poping 100+ cure and any variety of protection spell on an allie in one spell. Monks should focus more on healing one allie, and Ritualist should be given skills which protect multiple allies with multiple effects.

This could also be an Elite Well for Necromancer, just make it cost more and be able to recast more as well. But what I would really like to see is an Elementist Ward that grants health regen and defense, or A Healing over Time spell that heals his allies at a location for X amount every second for 10 seconds, that would just kick ass.

If you make this, you can count on Monks or Mesmers Archane Echoing this for double use, between 3 players, it can be permanant, and it would win games.
yes, great ideas, but then someone could easily kill the spirit, then what good would it be? but still, suggestions nice...
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 02:44 PM // 14:44   #11
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Being able to kill the spirit is what balances it, that is the whole point.

You can not make double copies of spirits, and even though it can be reproduced over and over, the enemy only has to kill one spirit to counter the effect, also, it is immobile, and requires another skill just to move.

Having Aegis Defense and up to 7 regen is very strong as an enchantment, an enemy just isn't going to be able to remove it all. As a Spirit, though it may last a long time, the enemy only needs to kill the spirit, and that is a tactic I think is very underused in the game, Spirits shouldn't drop like flies, enemies should have to kill them to counter the effect, as an elite, this can pass off as a reasonably balanced skill. This would certainly be alot more powerful than other Spirits, even Elite Spirits, but I think that is a weakness we see in Spirits, they need to be improved.
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57   #12
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Cast in 3 seconds, recharge in 30 seconds and attributable to divine favor, and duration from 5..10, just some suggestions.. but i wouldnt see my monk using this in either form. Your idea sounds neat, but i like 5e spells myself.
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #13
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Giving monk a Divine Favor Alternative to Aegis is just unacceptable, that's all I have to say.
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15   #14
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45 seconds of recharge... Bleh. Wouldn't be used much at all, it isn't that good.
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33   #15
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reduce min duration to 3 seconds
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06   #16
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Thing is you can already get this almost with a rit spirit spammer, even better with blind and interupts. Using a skill and knowing how they work most effectively is key, not having an all-in-one skill. Guardian +healing breeze does the same thing better, with the same energy and lower recharge/cast times minus the group affect. Unless your up against an oppressive gaze or FOC spike or aoe eles, group skills are pretty much a waste in PVP anyway. Regen spells are only useful in low dps situations or counters to degen. I think if monks had a bit (not a lot) better e managment then whats available they wouldn't even be thinking about all-in-one skills like this.
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Old Sep 14, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02   #17
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is this an enchantment?!

i am just thinking of a blessed aura + ench mod + archane echo which may have this maintained indefinitely...
also block is not something that should be in heal, in prot more likely
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Old Sep 14, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03   #18
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Giving monk a Divine Favor Alternative to Aegis is just unacceptable, that's all I have to say.
Sadly I must agree, I wouldnt touch Aegis again. (unless I was stacking them)

-- what about changing the dynamic a bit, and adding a 'while they have no other monk enchantments on them' bit?
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